One major issue playing HC is that there are very few public games and this certainly doesn't promote public trading at all. I find it very hard to trade for what I need. I'm not sure whether it's because there aren't many people playing on the HC realm or the fact that due to player's characters death on a regular basis causing scarce resources available.
Is playing on HC nowadays means solo gaming in private games so you won't feel like an idiot if you got "TPPK'ed". But one will need to make public trading at some point in hardcore, I wonder how will the one be able to make a successful trade with current issues considered as metioned earlier. Not forget to mention how great this community is and there is a trading forum section dedicated to Hardcore players. However, it's the same problem even in here. My thread created in the HC trading forum days ago is still appeared on the top of the page with only a few views and no replies yet. HC trading forum is barely moving, even with all realms combined and it's not divided up into sub-forums for each different realms like the regular trading forums. The situation of how my thread turns out is similar to many other threads posted in the HC trading forum.
Because of the long dreaded 1.12 patch in the current ladder, I came back playing only on HC USWest realm after long 7-month break. I can say i'm extremely wealthy in the softcore realm by the time I stopped playing, but so are many other players by now. The wealth among many players and abundant amount of items plus dupped high runes available are the main reasons that's driving inflation in currency so high that I'm feeling sick of continue playing in softcore.
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X.T.|||Blizzard doesn't care about HC. I don't bother with HC cuz it's basically broken but they won't fix it.|||Thread moved to HC from Community.|||there are special channels for safe gameing, prices are different ( in expencive side ) trades done on different site
also, it would be nice to point out your Realm for more help at HC|||There is a 3rd party website which may not be named here. You can sell your items for fg, and then sell the fg for precious itamz. I haven't been there in months, so I'm not sure how active it is these days, but it's usually quite busy after resets, etc.
Disclaimer: you must sell the pureness of your soul when you enter the site. You will be surrounded by cheaters and botters and immature children who think they are god. It is not for the faint of heart, but as far as trading goes, it does work, as long as you watch out for the scammers.
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There is a 3rd party website which may not be named here. You can sell your items for fg, and then sell the fg for precious itamz. I haven't been there in months, so I'm not sure how active it is these days, but it's usually quite busy after resets, etc.
Disclaimer: you must sell the pureness of your soul when you enter the site. You will be surrounded by cheaters and botters and immature children who think they are god. It is not for the faint of heart, but as far as trading goes, it does work, as long as you watch out for the scammers.
-hps
Well, I didn�t want to mention it because I wasn�t sure if we weren�t supposed to mention it but since we�re already not mentioning it . . . I think I�ll go ahead and insert my opinion that this 3rd party website is mostly responsible for the decline of in-game trading. I made an account there and did a bit of looking around before deciding that the outrageously good prices weren�t worth the pureness of my soul . . . You can get three Gul Runes for one Um Rune?! . . and trade a handful of normal/exceptional socketed items for High Runes?! . . something feels fishy to me . . . It�s really too bad that Blizzard can�t get rid of that 3rd party website as part of the v1.13 patch (I don�t know about anyone else but that would certainly renew my interest in Bnet play).|||Quote:
Well, I didn�t want to mention it because I wasn�t sure if we weren�t supposed to mention it but since we�re already not mentioning it . . . I think I�ll go ahead and insert my opinion that this 3rd party website is mostly responsible for the decline of in-game trading. I made an account there and did a bit of looking around before deciding that the outrageously good prices weren�t worth the pureness of my soul . . . You can get three Gul Runes for one Um Rune?! . . and trade a handful of normal/exceptional socketed items for High Runes?! . . something feels fishy to me . . . It�s really too bad that Blizzard can�t get rid of that 3rd party website as part of the v1.13 patch (I don�t know about anyone else but that would certainly renew my interest in Bnet play).
I'm certainly no fan of the site that shall not be named, but I think it's a bit awkward to blame the people trading duped runes rather than the duping tricks. I do have an issue with the fact that several high-end ladder reset teams buy gear off of the site while running, making it exceedingly difficult for those who don't. You either have to be markedly better/luckier or to some extent consider picking up a Viper etc. yourself.
It is certainly an easier marketplace to cash in on, but I don't honestly think anything can be done about it under the EULA. Even if it could I don't think that would be a permanent fix, it's too fluid of a legal issue and isn't hosted on their servers. Fix the exploits on your own servers and a more convenient and accessible marketplace won't be nearly as much of a blight - heck, I'd bet a huge chunk of the scum inhabiting the site would quit if they couldn't get their cheap Annis/Torches/High Runes.
Cheers
-Tai|||Ya just gotta find the right people and trade with them, I have had good luck trading in HC.
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What realm? It's kinda hard to offer advice or tell you who to talk to if we don't know where you play :-)|||I have never been an enthusiastic trader, largely because almost anything that's really worth trading for (e.g. hard-to-find set item pieces like the Ma'avina's hat, Griswold's shield, etc., and high runes) are almost certainly all dupes.
However, I have now completely abandoned trading in Hardcore. The reason is simple : the cheaters have now figured out various hacks that can one-hit even high level characters, while they're all way inside the "safe" areas (e.g. standing right next to the Stash in the Rogue Encampment). There are several recorded examples of this hack being used, including at least one in the HC Graveyard in this Forum.
The bottom line here is that thanks to the a**hole cheaters and griefers, plus Blizzard's abysmal neglect of the Diablo game system, you can no longer safely join a Hardcore game, even if you never venture out of town. Because of this, it is never safe to trade in Hardcore -- as a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet that the TPPKers would love nothing more than to gank a mule that was loaded with expensive items.
Sorry folks, but that's the state of public Hardcore games on the Realms these days : you can be insta-killed by cheats, in places where Blizzard meant you to be 100% safe. Don't like it? Don't play Diablo... or play only by yourself.
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there are special channels for safe gameing, prices are different ( in expencive side ) trades done on different site
also, it would be nice to point out your Realm for more help at HC
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Ya just gotta find the right people and trade with them, I have had good luck trading in HC.
P.S.
What realm? It's kinda hard to offer advice or tell you who to talk to if we don't know where you play :-)
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Well, I didn’t want to mention it because I wasn’t sure if we weren’t supposed to mention it but since we’re already not mentioning it . . . I think I’ll go ahead and insert my opinion that this 3rd party website is mostly responsible for the decline of in-game trading. I made an account there and did a bit of looking around before deciding that the outrageously good prices weren’t worth the pureness of my soul . . . You can get three Gul Runes for one Um Rune?! . . and trade a handful of normal/exceptional socketed items for High Runes?! . . something feels fishy to me . . . It’s really too bad that Blizzard can’t get rid of that 3rd party website as part of the v1.13 patch (I don’t know about anyone else but that would certainly renew my interest in Bnet play).
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I'm certainly no fan of the site that shall not be named, but I think it's a bit awkward to blame the people trading duped runes rather than the duping tricks. I do have an issue with the fact that several high-end ladder reset teams buy gear off of the site while running, making it exceedingly difficult for those who don't. You either have to be markedly better/luckier or to some extent consider picking up a Viper etc. yourself.
It is certainly an easier marketplace to cash in on, but I don't honestly think anything can be done about it under the EULA. Even if it could I don't think that would be a permanent fix, it's too fluid of a legal issue and isn't hosted on their servers. Fix the exploits on your own servers and a more convenient and accessible marketplace won't be nearly as much of a blight - heck, I'd bet a huge chunk of the scum inhabiting the site would quit if they couldn't get their cheap Annis/Torches/High Runes.
Cheers
-Tai
I play on the USWest HC Realm and I did actually mentioned it in my 3rd paragraph of my original post. And speaking of the other site, I know about that site very well. I do not want to and it's not worth mentioning its name here. I've been a proud member on this forum for a couple years now and I've been doing trades and interactions with other members in this community (yes, our exclusive trustworthy mule trades). I am totally against that site and its particular trading system. I have never traded on that site before, eventhough I'm a registered member there. I am against the "fg" currency system that they have on their forum for many various reasons including the primary reasons of causing unfair gameplay to the general d2 public players. I don't want to go into the details about it as you guys already know the negative impacts it brings.
I couldn't agree more with what HanShotFirst has wrote. "FG" currency is one of the primary reasons that has caused a decling in in-game trade as well as imbalanced currency. Over on that site, they also do not strictly enforce on duping, hacking, and illegitmate items. In our community, we do not promote the use of forum currency and neither do we allow any trades dealing with duping, hacking and illegitmate items. This is what makes us different than the other site and this is why I only chose to be an active member here.
For many times I have explained the unfairness that "fg" brings to many public D2 players, it should not be allowed to interfere and alter in-game trading system in anyway. There is a ladder reset in the starting of every new season for many good reasons. The "fg" currency which they promote on their site defeats the sole purpose of ladder reset. There is no expiry date to "fg" so this means you can use your accumulated wealth over the years you've been active on that site and exchange it for goods and services. Imagine the problems it could bring to the general public D2 players. It will certain bring a negative impact on the D2 economy and causing extremely unfair gameplay experience to all other players.
Back to the original topic, the exp in HC trading is certainly a lot different in softcore trading. It can get very lonely most of the time as I can see myself is the only one who has made a public trading game most of the time. I think this is the kind of exp I should get used to, BUT it shouldn't be anywhere near this bad if Blizzard can put the effort to fix "TPPK". HC gameplay means the challenge that you only get to live once, and not to play in fear due to hackers using TPPK exploit.
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